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Comic 323 published on 276 Comments on Comic 323

Howdy, fellow Draconiacs!  RazorFox here.

Do we detect a bit of a guilty conscience?  Has a certain member of the royal court violated a Dragon’s prime directive?  Stay tuned…

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We are less than two weeks away from my debut appearance at Anime Boston, who have been kind enough to have me as a featured artist!  If you’re in Boston, New England in general, or anywhere in the northeastern United States and southeastern Canada, I wanna see you there!  Look for me in the pro Artist Alley, where I’ll be shaking hands and knocking out commissions.  It’s my first-ever time in Boston, so I’ve been brimming with excitement to make this trip, and I want to thank the Anime Boston staff for putting together an offer I couldn’t refuse.  Anime Boston patrons have been asking me to come out there for years.  It shows you what a little persistence can do.  Thank you, Anime Boston!  See you in two.

As for me, it’s back to work on next week’s page as I commence a workathon in hopes of not having to skip the convention week’s update.  Wish me luck!  Until then, take care, my fellow Draconiacs, and thanks for reading!

=RazorFox.

276 Comments

Shie is coming for you, Chiara… Shie is coming for you…

And darn it! They’re Brainwash and Tumble-Drying Lumina/Chuki again! Don’t they know she’s Dry-Clean ONLY!?

As long as she doesn’t shrink any. Else, she’ll never grow up. ^__^

Poor Lumina. She’ll become the Napoleon of Dragons… not because she’d be a dictator, but because she’d be so short. Hopefully her flight muscles will still come in on such a short frame to clear any doubt.

Better a Napoleon than a loveless, psychopathic killer with no allegence. But still, what is this new mystery with Chiara’s flashback?

Yep…
1) We haven’t seen much of her lately in the main story line.
2) She lied about the Obsidian Egg and Zhrite Claw’s location.
3) We don’t know much about her.

That’s why I don’t like Shaleigh at all.

Shie is coming for you, Chiara… Shie is coming for you…

And darn it! They’re Brainwash and Tumble-Drying Lumina/Chuki again! Don’t they know she’s Dry-Clean ONLY!?

As long as she doesn’t shrink any. Else, she’ll never grow up. ^__^

Poor Lumina. She’ll become the Napoleon of Dragons… not because she’d be a dictator, but because she’d be so short. Hopefully her flight muscles will still come in on such a short frame to clear any doubt.

Better a Napoleon than a loveless, psychopathic killer with no allegence. But still, what is this new mystery with Chiara’s flashback?

Yep…
1) We haven’t seen much of her lately in the main story line.
2) She lied about the Obsidian Egg and Zhrite Claw’s location.
3) We don’t know much about her.

That’s why I don’t like Shaleigh at all.

Increíble pagina, con muchas emociones con no necesariamente muchas imágenes y curiosamente no tanto texto, buen trabajo! Me gusta mucho el efecto de Kilani envuelta en esas lineas caóticas que intentan carcomer los recuerdos. Oh my! Chiara parece que se siente culpable en el fondo, ahora me pregunto si esas imágenes las ve solo Chiara o también Lucys y la reina Oscura.

Es mera curiosidad, pero creando este concepto de guerra entre dragones y tigres, tiene un aire de guerras Hobbecianas, ¿Por alguna casualidad tiene alguna inspiración en los conceptos de Hobbes?

Es un punto de vista muy interesante. Estudié un poco de Hobbes, entre otros filósofos, en la universidad, pero eso hace años. Sin embargo, aunque me he olvidado, talvez unos temas me quedaron grabados en la mente. Es posible que hay un poco de Hobbes aquí, pero oficialmente, cualquier similaridad es pura coincidencia. ^__^

No creo mucho en las coincidencias (esto es mentira XD) pero desconfió de su palabra señor ¬w¬. (Ademas ni esperaba que supieras de Hobbes, usualmente pregunto y me quedan mirando como tontos, creo que eres la primera persona que sabe de el fuera de un área cercana a mi carrera o mi padre que conoce el nombre Hobbes)

The Draconian Chronicles tiene un componente Hobbeciano muy claro y muy fuerte, demasiado para ser una mera coincidencia. Es claro que los dragones y tigres están inmersas en lo que parece ser guerras absolutamente Hobbecianas. Todos contra todo lo que lleva a una destrucción total (en este caso 2 grupos claros pero el concepto es aplicable) donde pareciera ser que la motivación principal es el miedo y el deseo de sobrevivir a toda costa (incluso si eso significa matar)

Ahora la pregunta seria, ¿Se levantara un Leviathan para parar la guerra absoluta? ¿Sera Lumina ese Leviathan? ¿Sera Kilani?

Oh bueno, buen trabajo, nunca había logrado aplicar uno de los filósofos que estudio en un webcomic, definitivamente lo hace mas divertido nwn.

That image creeped me out on so many levels. Is that Riah? Because that just made it worse for me…

Yup, that’s Riah. And if it creeped you out, as it did Lady Chiara, then I’ve succeeded. ^__^

That image creeped me out on so many levels. Is that Riah? Because that just made it worse for me…

Yup, that’s Riah. And if it creeped you out, as it did Lady Chiara, then I’ve succeeded. ^__^

I’d hardly say that Oscura is one to talk. For being Queen of the Dragons she herself doesn’t follow there own directive. She’s always let her emotions determine her actions. The woman is a emotional mess and unfit to lead.

But tell us how you REALLY feel. ^__^

That’s pretty much it. Maybe add a few references to Oscura being a crazy bitch. But yeah. That’s it.

We need a remix of the South Park Song, “Kyle’s Mom’s a B*tch”… only we need to replace the words Kyle with “Lumi”.

I have a feeling that Hiorou is saying some good stuff. But for the life of me I don’t know what it is.

She was talking about how my comic seems to have an undercurrent of Hobbesian philosophy to it, especially in regards to how the war is conducted, and whether there’s a Leviathan on the rise. Maybe my humble little webcomic is headier than I thought. ^__^

Sorry still don’t quite get it. There are already water dragons so why would there be a giant water dragon on the rise? And I don’t know what Hobbesian philosophy is.

Kobra, your comment make me honeslty smile and laugh a bit, but you admit that you dont know Hobbes so let me explain. Sorry if it get messy for my bad english but Hobbes is philosopher really hard to understand and explain so I will try my best.

First of all, for you to undestand that Hobbes`s Leviathan is not literally the big biblical sea-snake. Hobbes`s Leviathan is more a political figure with big power (he use the leviathan as his figure because the leviathan is a creature that cause fear on human, one of the main motivation in Hobbes works) That been said I will explain what exactly is his philosophy and how it connect with The Draconian Chronicles.

First Hobbes explain that humans are animals, and like any animal its main motivation for its action are fear to the death and survival instict that push us to live at all cost. The main difference with us and animals, beside the ability to reasoning things is that humans dont follow the hierarchic line of the food chain based on the streng like animals do.

Animals follow a clear structure on the food chain, a lion will always ate the bunny no matter what, however, humans dont follow this because even if there are stronger humans than others, we have the ability to kill a stronger human than us using some things on our favor. An example of this can be Me V/S Mike Tyson fighting for an apple to survive. In matter of boxing/streng he will bet the crap out of me, but that doesnt mean I cant win over him to get an apple to my own survival in a natural enviroment where THERE IS NO RULES, LAWS OR A STATE that will punish me or dictate any of my actions. We are in a eviroment where EVERYTHING IS VALID TO SURVIVE, even kill each other.

Based on this I can`t win the apples over him using my strengh but I can use other methods like my intelligence to create a weapon like a sword or arrows or poison him. I will do whatevers is needed to get my own survival, and his strengh wont save him if I find a way to overpower him on areas that he is weaker than me. Basically, any human can be killed by other human independent if they are stronger, faster or smarther than you, and we cant avoid it, so what we fear the most is the death on the hands of othe human.

How that have anything to do with The Draconian Chronicles even if the character arent even humans? Thats simple, even if dragons and tiger got many diferences they both have the ability to kill each others. Tigers are bigger, stronger, faster, more in number and have a metal that cancell dragon magic, while dragons are smarthers/got better knowledge, have magic, can fly and live longer. While they arent equal on terms of abilities they have, none of them got enough ability to overpower the other. A dragon can kill a tiger as much as tiger can kill a dragon, they are equals on the matter of the absolute power, even if they are different, much like humans.

The second part of Hobbes`s theory is that because no human is stronger than another and all have equal oportunities to kill everybody we fear each other more that anything else. Fear is our main motivation, and if we dont stop this fear for each other it will drive us to the inevitable conflict of all humans V/S all humans. Thats is know as the Hobbesian Wars. They are the absolute conflic and chaos where all humans are your foes, willing to kill you at all cost, this at the end will erase all humans from the existence.

Dragons and Tigers are pretty much on Hobbesian Wars, maybe a little less chaotic that Hobbes wars look like, but Hobbesian wars never the less. Both of them will kill each other and even erase the other if the have the chance and think what is needed to survive. We dont know what start this war between dragons and tigers, but definitively are fueled by the same reasons of human Hobbesian Wars (fear, distrust, hate and survival instict)

This lead me to the last argument and is about the leviathan (and speculation of how draconian can developed into the future) . Hobbesian Wars are definitively the worst scenario for humans (and dragons & tigers) Hobbes said that to avoid it there must rise a monarch or leader know as the mortal god on earth that will take actions and decisions needed to avoid the wars of all humans V/S all humans.

Such person must be human and will be know as the Leviathan, and his/her main motivation/reasonto to exist will be to take the decicions needed to avoid at all cost conflict that could create Hobbessian Wars and protect people, even if this mean the leviathan have to crush and destroy some individuals that can create conflict.

But in a different ways than the classic monarch where its power come from god, Leviathans power come from people and it need the support of them. A Leviathan that loose the approval of people will become a powerless leviathan and become just simple human no different form any other. My teachers could kill me for said this XD but a Leviathan is like a overpowerfull president with absolute powers over everything and anyone, but his/her main actions are at the end for the best of the people and to avoid conflict.

I can see someone rise as the Leviathan here on the Draconiaverse, actually, a leviatans is exactly what is needed. Wars between dragons and tigers arent the best for any of the two groups and will just drive into sadness, hate, bitterness and sorrow for all of them. So there must be someone strong enough to stop the conflict and people that support her. The better options for a Leviathan here could be Kilani because she doesnt want conflict and/or Lumina as she seem like someone to be powerfull on the future (actually that could sound like a fancy tittle for her in the future XD; Lumina, the Leviathan Queen)

But thats more or less why I think that The Draconian Chronicles got a component of Hobbessian philosophy. Its motivations, conflict and maybe a posible conclusion have some air Hobbes and his leviathan. Hope all of that is clear for you, know is hard to understand, Hobbes isnt easy and maybe am all wrong on it, but I hope you see that the lleviathan im talking about is not about a fish-sea-dragon monste here XD.

Thank you for clearing that up for me. I understand it though I may not agree with it completely.

For example while humans may be dominant it is only true while there in there own element. A lion, crock, or shark can eat a human while they are in the animals element. It is true that the humans weapons and technology can give them a greater advantage than the animal but like the old saying goes. “Sometimes you get the bear, and sometimes the bear gets you.” Humans do take the territory of nature but nature can not always be denied.

Also humans do base there actions on fear and survival but also mostly on greed. They always put there needs above others especially other humans.

As for you’re fight with mike tison. It’s true that you could overcome his strength with intelligence. But only if you actually have the ability you described. Then you have to try and overcome any other individuals who follow someone so strong and the pack mentality. If not you’re doomed.
Finally the monarch you mentioned. While that may work for a while, like I mentioned earlier humans are greedy by nature. There would no doubt be others that would seek to replace or destroy that monarch even if it did have most of the people on it’s side.
Still though thanks for clearing that up.

As for the vote on “What is your verdict on Lady Chiara?” I don’t want to say guilty because those were the same tigers that killed her mother when all she was doing was transporting a defenseless egg. Chiara defiantly wanted her some payback for that. And let’s face it it’s not like Kess or any of them would have done anything different if they were Chiara in that situation. Hell Oscura would and hase done the same. So can we really call her guilty and condemn her when practically everyone has done the exact same thing?

This has the possibility of disaster written all over it and it probably doesn’t help any that one of them might have a image of fur covered demon lurking in their subconsciousness messing with one of the magical brain surgeons.

Riah’s a very real demon.

Personally I like how Riah’s face kind of reminds me of that Grumpy cat that seems to be a big fad on the internet now. ^^

But do two wrongs necessarily make a right here?

No, three wrongs make a right. Instead of going right you go left three times and now you’re going right.
Any way it isn’t right to single her out since there are others guilty of the exact same thing and others that are fare more deserving.

Ok… you lost me. /:|<(

Even if this works, I highly doubt they’ll be able to obliterate every memory, and considering they’re having to do this again, wouldn’t be surprised if she did retain some memory, despite the rather good (though somewhat cruel) job they are doing.
On top of that, I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some other faction that would benefit from either the Tigers or Dragons destruction, or from both sides annihilating each other.

As for the vote on “What is your verdict on Lady Chiara?” I don’t want to say guilty because those were the same tigers that killed her mother when all she was doing was transporting a defenseless egg. Chiara defiantly wanted her some payback for that. And let’s face it it’s not like Kess or any of them would have done anything different if they were Chiara in that situation. Hell Oscura would and hase done the same. So can we really call her guilty and condemn her when practically everyone has done the exact same thing?

But do two wrongs necessarily make a right here?

No, three wrongs make a right. Instead of going right you go left three times and now you’re going right.
Any way it isn’t right to single her out since there are others guilty of the exact same thing and others that are fare more deserving.

Ok… you lost me. /:|<(

This has the possibility of disaster written all over it and it probably doesn’t help any that one of them might have a image of fur covered demon lurking in their subconsciousness messing with one of the magical brain surgeons.

I smell a ~screeew uuuup~ : )

Looks like Lumina MAY keep her memories after all IF Chiara’s realization causes her to undo the entire process which I HOPE happens, or else serious side effects and/or consequences could occur if the process succeeds… x (€ >_<) x (fingers crossed)

I can just see Kilani’s heartbreak if this little slip-up makes Chuki think that Riah’s her tiger mother…

I can just see Kilani’s heartbreak if this little slip-up makes Chuki think that Riah’s her tiger mother…

Even if this works, I highly doubt they’ll be able to obliterate every memory, and considering they’re having to do this again, wouldn’t be surprised if she did retain some memory, despite the rather good (though somewhat cruel) job they are doing.
On top of that, I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some other faction that would benefit from either the Tigers or Dragons destruction, or from both sides annihilating each other.

I think that you are right and that is what the story is going to follow, after all, you may forget, but you will never lose the feeling in your heart of a good mother’s love.

Can someone explain to me what(when?) is happening in this page? i mean I get they’re doing another magic lobotomy, but why is one of the blonde tigers on-screen and one dragon seems to realize something?

Can someone explain to me what(when?) is happening in this page? i mean I get they’re doing another magic lobotomy, but why is one of the blonde tigers on-screen and one dragon seems to realize something?

Problematic when the “Mother’s Stare” becomes something memory-bound… She doesn’t even need to–Wait… There are puns here.
*fair warning, puns aplenty*

Talk about Eye of the Tiger…
Clawed deep in your memory.
Someone’s not in a ‘pretty kitty’ mood.
[Insert Miranda Deegan reference here]
Stop dragon your feet and erase her mind already!
Cat got your tongue?
A stare that gets under your scales.
On a ‘Scale’ of 1 to 10, that’s a 15 in scary ^@&*.
Flap your winds twice and the hallucination goes away!
She looks like she wants to tell you a long tail but will settle for gouging your heart out.
Last Panel=Royally Screwed.
Counseling? We’ve got faster ways with less pills.
Mother of The Year award goes to… Anyone but the Queen.
Mental scars normally don’t bite back. Good thing she’s only staring, right?

…yeah I’m tapped out.

“LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!! NICE!!!
Here’s another one, it could’ve been worse, Gaia’s Ghost, or ‘Gaiagas’ could’ve haunted, mind-raped, or raped Oscura!”

*screaming and awful noises*
•”…Kess…”
•”I’m so sad Oscura.”
•”Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde,
Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde
, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde,
Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde
, Scyde, Scyde…”

*shudders at the image*
“You know what? Forget what I said.”

Problematic when the “Mother’s Stare” becomes something memory-bound… She doesn’t even need to–Wait… There are puns here.
*fair warning, puns aplenty*

Talk about Eye of the Tiger…
Clawed deep in your memory.
Someone’s not in a ‘pretty kitty’ mood.
[Insert Miranda Deegan reference here]
Stop dragon your feet and erase her mind already!
Cat got your tongue?
A stare that gets under your scales.
On a ‘Scale’ of 1 to 10, that’s a 15 in scary ^@&*.
Flap your winds twice and the hallucination goes away!
She looks like she wants to tell you a long tail but will settle for gouging your heart out.
Last Panel=Royally Screwed.
Counseling? We’ve got faster ways with less pills.
Mother of The Year award goes to… Anyone but the Queen.
Mental scars normally don’t bite back. Good thing she’s only staring, right?

…yeah I’m tapped out.

“LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!! NICE!!!
Here’s another one, it could’ve been worse, Gaia’s Ghost, or ‘Gaiagas’ could’ve haunted, mind-raped, or raped Oscura!”

*screaming and awful noises*
•”…Kess…”
•”I’m so sad Oscura.”
•”Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde,
Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde
, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde,
Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde, Scyde
, Scyde, Scyde…”

*shudders at the image*
“You know what? Forget what I said.”

Razor your comic is really addicitve i am always eager to see what happens next
I have ocd of gaia getting tortured and beaten a long time ago but i got over it and her daughter too what’s past is past yeah i forgive queen oscura elektra and scyde for that
event but whats done is done she commited a crime went against rules and regulations but it
just breaks my heart to see the poor condemed and the people in power when they commit a crimes and lots of them always get away with it It seems in the platoon movie if you ever watched it one of the characters says the poor will alway’s be F##&*& up by the rich always have always will

Razor your comic is really addicitve i am always eager to see what happens next
I have ocd of gaia getting tortured and beaten a long time ago but i got over it and her daughter too what’s past is past yeah i forgive queen oscura elektra and scyde for that
event but whats done is done she commited a crime went against rules and regulations but it
just breaks my heart to see the poor condemed and the people in power when they commit a crimes and lots of them always get away with it It seems in the platoon movie if you ever watched it one of the characters says the poor will alway’s be F##&*& up by the rich always have always will

Fear the spark of the past for it holds great warrant to being erased and will strike back with a vengeance. Another well done page Razor :3, its a shame that I can’t make anime boston this year. I used to live in Mass too! but then I had to move to Maine and now I can’t afford much x3. But thanks for coming waay over to New England, I hope you have a wonderful stay. AB is one of my favorite cons to go to!

Fear the spark of the past for it holds great warrant to being erased and will strike back with a vengeance. Another well done page Razor :3, its a shame that I can’t make anime boston this year. I used to live in Mass too! but then I had to move to Maine and now I can’t afford much x3. But thanks for coming waay over to New England, I hope you have a wonderful stay. AB is one of my favorite cons to go to!

And now we get to the part where Kimi will say goodbye to him and that she’ll always be in his heart.

Unless the Nekocat spirits allow her to go with him for the future adventure so she could protect him from any of danger.

She could use her new skill for sensing any of dangers to protect him from getting harm since both Nekonny and Kimi relationship are so powerful, powerful enough to see each other and looking out each other.

and maybe just maybe like in the movie ghost she will share a final kiss with him and slowly fade away with a smile on her face so to speak, and Nekonny might be able to move on (and before he leaves the island he looks back and sees a huge image of Kimi in the sky with a faint echoing voice that only he can hear and whispers goodbye my love)

even though she will no longer be in land of the living she will forever live on in his heart and all i can say for this is kind of my own way to help allow spirits gain peace “by the holy light may the heavens guide the spirits to peace so that they and those they cared find inner peace”

That’s … well, I was expecting something like this, but I am surprised it happened this soon. She’s not a ghost – she’s a spirit. She’s got a body – made of energy. She can feel, not physically, but mentally. I am quite happy that she thinks the same way as Nek now – it means they both mean a lot to eachother.

Now I wanna post sth strange & I hope funny 😉

1- Any1 else noticed Nekonyy got like HUMAN FINGERS on photo #1? XD
2- I want them to kiss 😉

Watched too many Gundam series. This is like another one of those Newtype bonding moments where they’ll say goodbye but they’ll always be there to watch over them and giving them strength, and thanking their loved one for giving them more then what they wanted. Maybe…maybe Nekonny is a newtype *le-gasp* lol

There are 2 possiblity I could think of;

1) They could gives Kimi a chance to be alive and have new adventure with Nekonny. But, not just let Kimi to be alive but also can communication with ancient nekocats ghost.

2) Same thing as the number 1 guess, WITHOUT ability to communication with ancient nekocats ghost.

If you have more guesses than I have, you’re welcome to reply!

Waitwaitwaitwaitwait… WAIT! You mean they may actually have a chance of being together after all?! Why didn’t they say that in the frist place instead of letting us all cry over Kimi being dead!?!

We all think they will revive her… BUT NO!!!
THEY WILL KILL HIM SO HE WILL STAY WITH HIS HAREM 4EVER!! MUAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
that would be a great plot twist :v

What if they bring her back, but shes forgotten everything that’s happened as a result.

Wow, come to think of it that really does happen a lot in media when people are revived.

Ohh dammit man, did I predict future or what? xD I tho they will (and I hope that’s what they’re mummering about) try & make her ‘real’ again, not just the spirit … Like give her back her own body & such. Simply thinking about this possibility makes me sooooooooo excited 😀

I hope, really HOPE, Kimi will be back to her life, but also with her memories !! That’s too damn important right now, ya’ll know ??

I think the Nekocat’s Ghost Revive Kimi (Whit Hiden Motive) and after some Adult enterteinmant. A Big Happy Family. Nekonny, Kimi and four daughter’s (white certain similarities to four well known Spirits)

While lots of people are assuming that they’re talking about bringing Kimi back to life, “let use it, one last time” makes me think of the energy weapon (aka the Hammer).

And that doesn’t seem to be a tool that would do much with a spirit. On the other hand, it does all types of stuff to physical forms (just ask our ex-villain).

I’m wondering if we’re going to see Nekonny made into an honorary guardian spirit so that he can spend eternity with Kimi? (A lot better than spending the few years left that they would have as cats.)

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